tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post3080692142176606781..comments2024-02-13T04:49:01.411-06:00Comments on How to Lose at 40k: 6th ed Rules of the Game: Assaulting from Destroyed Vehicle, Walkers Overwatch and Template Weaponsa Sent Onehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13985913087960289002noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-20757410193347582992013-09-12T23:36:04.148-05:002013-09-12T23:36:04.148-05:00Thanks, Spellduckwrong. Was going to go with stra...Thanks, Spellduckwrong. Was going to go with straight yellow. You have helped me be sure that is the better thing to do.a Sent Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13985913087960289002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-5999923983119160982013-09-12T23:12:23.558-05:002013-09-12T23:12:23.558-05:00It was worth a shot. Now, coming back to it, I agr...It was worth a shot. Now, coming back to it, I agree that the straight yellow would be better.Spellduckwronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17562390052997011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-74135521158555395612013-09-12T12:00:30.319-05:002013-09-12T12:00:30.319-05:00Completely agree, Tyson.
You should've heard ...Completely agree, Tyson.<br /><br />You should've heard the fun conversation. My opponent and I were laughing while talking about it. Even an onlooker was laughing with us.a Sent Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13985913087960289002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-78461990979324534102013-09-12T11:54:05.032-05:002013-09-12T11:54:05.032-05:00Regardless of all the RAW, I'd like to quote a...Regardless of all the RAW, I'd like to quote and twist Smokey the Bear,"Only you can prevent rules lawyers." Its up to you to make the game fun, and if you are always going around rules and using this game to your advantage just to win you are going to find yourself with less people to play against.Tysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07001893966584834244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-69108138282001644392013-09-12T09:06:21.662-05:002013-09-12T09:06:21.662-05:00I politely disagree, ronnoc. Using a template is ...I politely disagree, ronnoc. Using a template is measuring. Otherwise there would no be no template. The template is the measuring stick when using those types of weapons.a Sent Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13985913087960289002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-25908880723218222412013-09-12T09:01:28.417-05:002013-09-12T09:01:28.417-05:00Thanks for the info, Spellduckwrong. Wanted to gi...Thanks for the info, Spellduckwrong. Wanted to give the panel you mentioned a go. While part of me likes it. I think straight yellow would be better in the long run.a Sent Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13985913087960289002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-81510902124897778462013-09-12T04:28:16.012-05:002013-09-12T04:28:16.012-05:00I do see your point but I'm not reading this f...I do see your point but I'm not reading this from the wording of the rule, rather, I'm seeing it from a common sense point of view! Don't get me wrong, in competitive play, it's RAW and if you we're playing me, I'd let you do it. I however wouldn't be able to bring myself to do it!!17yearoldhobbyisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09528253151940087048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-8270448542347442672013-09-12T03:37:19.167-05:002013-09-12T03:37:19.167-05:00I think you are thinking about this the wrong way....I think you are thinking about this the wrong way. The game's rules are rather abstract. I always like to think of it as a representation of the firer's ability to control their weapon and hit what they want with it.<br /><br /> I would also argue that RAI is clear in the other way. The wording was the same in 5th, if that's not what they wanted to happen, why wouldn't they change it? It takes more effort to put an 'other' in there allowing me to do this than it would to remove it and forbid me.ronnochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04846138337588291636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-76503584022385685792013-09-12T03:32:04.303-05:002013-09-12T03:32:04.303-05:00Placing a template is not measuring. You don'...Placing a template is not measuring. You don't have to place the template so the end is as far away from your base as possible- you have to place it so the small end is touching your base (check) and so it covers the most models in the unit you are shooting (check).ronnochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04846138337588291636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-31890143821802326452013-09-12T03:29:57.067-05:002013-09-12T03:29:57.067-05:00I had placed it without touching the fleshhound, I...I had placed it without touching the fleshhound, I was not being very careful when ASO asked me to place it again for the picture.<br /><br />'without touching any OTHER friendly models' Other other other other otherronnochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04846138337588291636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-30792377041290557682013-09-11T22:38:29.520-05:002013-09-11T22:38:29.520-05:00That panel is interesting, how do you feel about i...That panel is interesting, how do you feel about it? I'm not sure what I think about it on the same model as the mottled blue effect. Perhaps I like the straight yellow better, but with consistent dark areas,Spellduckwronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17562390052997011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-83503947434336566652013-09-11T16:38:35.401-05:002013-09-11T16:38:35.401-05:00Puritanical RAW. The new wave that takes over 40k...Puritanical RAW. The new wave that takes over 40k. muahaha That is actually a good point. One time I was playing Connor with my Dark Eldar. He could see the shock prow on the Raider and wanted to shoot at it. Said that per the rules shock prow doesn't count for LOS. Connor appropriately said that I count the shock prow for movement. He had me dead to rights. Had to work with it. Needless to say the Raider was lunched by the shooting.a Sent Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13985913087960289002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-54240652219361655772013-09-11T16:28:59.490-05:002013-09-11T16:28:59.490-05:00I know people will argue for RAW, but sometimes yo...I know people will argue for RAW, but sometimes you need to accept the obvious RAI. This is one of those times! You shouldn't be able to fire through yourself, just to hit more models! RAI is so obvious here, that unless you follow RAW puritanically, you have to follow it!17yearoldhobbyisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09528253151940087048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-83980561153125604422013-09-11T14:20:46.636-05:002013-09-11T14:20:46.636-05:00Good catch, Hudson. Didn't catch that. Perha...Good catch, Hudson. Didn't catch that. Perhaps the angle of the camera makes it look like its touching the fleshound.a Sent Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13985913087960289002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-70097978340659024222013-09-11T11:24:06.927-05:002013-09-11T11:24:06.927-05:00"without touching any other friendly models (..."without touching any other friendly models (including other models from the firing model's unit),"<br /><br />Clearly in violation hitting himself as well as a fleshound.Hudsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09254648458761984561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-58643983474141104472013-09-11T11:13:41.059-05:002013-09-11T11:13:41.059-05:00Tyson, that is damned good information. You never...Tyson, that is damned good information. You never measure from the back to front edges of the base. Thought the same thing about going around the rules. Had a fun time chatting with him about it.a Sent Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13985913087960289002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-79224284007644412002013-09-11T11:12:11.894-05:002013-09-11T11:12:11.894-05:00Yeah it was funny. Agree with you about RAW and t...Yeah it was funny. Agree with you about RAW and the page reference. Felt it was a good question he brought up and damned sneaky of him.a Sent Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13985913087960289002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-62609552897958927452013-09-11T10:55:53.338-05:002013-09-11T10:55:53.338-05:00This is part of measuring how close a model or uni...This is part of measuring how close a model or unit is to another. You are never measuring from the back to front edges, always closest edge to closest edge. Same as firing another weapon. Then again, I'm not sure considering rules as written might never have intended to defend against a point of view such as this. I would say its on him to be trying to go around the rules like this when you know how they meant it to work.Tysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07001893966584834244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8833680813290901707.post-25038170863072460172013-09-11T10:40:05.017-05:002013-09-11T10:40:05.017-05:00Haha I dunno RAW I can't see a reason you coul...Haha I dunno RAW I can't see a reason you couldn't place the template like that. After all the narrow end is touching the base.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06882924916041115969noreply@blogger.com