Friday, December 28, 2012

Eldar Harlistar/Invisi-council revised (still being revised)

During the first game with this army I was coming up with ways to make it better.  Particularly more efficient.  First was deployment.  Second was focusing its strength.  Wasn't til the BatRep, battle report, was put up did I learn I didn't swap out Eldrad's powers correctly.  As always, giving credit where it is due.  Invisi-council is Fritz's creation.


Closest pic available presently to represent new tactic.
Anon 5:11pm has dropped some schooling on me.  Time to change some things.  I feel extremely foolish.


Here's my new list.

Eldrad 210 pts

Olonora (Farseer), Runes of warding, Spirit stone, Fortune, Guide 140 pts

10 Warlocks; 1 Conceal, 7 Destructor, 1 Embolden and 1 Enhance 365 pts

10 Harlequins; Shadowseer, Death Jester, 2 Fusion Pistol, 9 Harlequin Kisses 276 pts

5 Dire Avengers 60 pts

10 Guardians w/Bright Lance 110 pts

3 War Walkers with 2 Star Cannons 240 pts

Wraithlord w/Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon and 2 Flamers 120 pts

Falcon w/Shuriken Cannon, Bright Lance, Holo-fields and Spirit Stones 200 pts

Fire Prism w/Shuriken Cannon 125 pts  This is fourth heavy, clearly wrong.

New, new list with Anon 5:11pm suggestions.


Eldrad 210 pts

Olonora (Farseer), Runes of warding, Spirit stone, Fortune, Guide 140 pts

10 Warlocks; 1 Conceal, 7 Destructor, 1 Embolden and 1 Enhance 365 pts

10 Harlequins; Shadowseer, Death Jester, 2 Fusion Pistol, 9 Harlequin Kisses 276 pts

5 Dire Avengers 60 pts

2x 10 Guardians w/Bright Lance 110 pts

3 War Walkers with 2 Star Cannons 240 pts

Wraithlord w/Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon and 2 Flamers 120 pts

Falcon w/Shuriken Cannon, Bright Lance 125 pts.

List is still under construction.


Couple of thoughts on the list.

Didn't bother buying any vehicle upgrades for War Walkers.  Their armour is so flimsy figured it was a complete waste of points.

Falcon comes in at 200 points with Shuriken Cannon, Bright Lance, Holo-fields and Spirit Stones.  Considering ditching it for another Wraithlord and 10 Guardians.

Also considering dropping the Fire Prism for a third Wraithlord.  Really footdar the army.  It will be like my Eldar army back in 2nd ed.  (Footdar is an Eldar army that moves across the table on its own feet 6" movement not using any transports.)

I'm heavily considering copying Shawn by arming my War Walkers with Scatter Lasers.  There would be 60 points left over.  Could buy more Guardians with that or some Aspect Warriors.  Really like those Star Cannons though.  That Ap 2 is damn good against Terminators.

If I drop the Harlequin's Fusion Pistols with above changes will have enough for 10 Guardians with another Bright Lance.


Onto deployment tactics.

Eldrad loses all his powers and rolls off Telepathy table in hopes of getting Invisibility.  Something Natfka has mentioned a couple of times regarding chance.  Specifically seizing initiative: Don't count on it.  Same goes for rolling a table for the power.  There's a one in three chance of not getting the power.  Have to be prepared for this eventuality.

I'll be placing Eldrad with Olonora and her Warlocks.  Eldrad will be up front with a Warlock immediately behind him.  Then another Warlock behind that one.  The point is to make an arrow pointing at the enemy so Eldrad is the closest model.  That ensures the wound pool is assigned to him.  Then Look Out, Sir! as often as needed.  That would be when a double toughness strength weapon lands.


Details on psychic tactics.

Eldrad casts Invisibility on squad.  Making Conceal Warlock 5+ cover save 2+ in the open.  Farseer casts Fortune on squad to re-roll that failed cover or invul save.

The Destructor power is just smart.  Will be quite useful for overwatch.  Fritz is extremely on the ball with having Warlocks with Destructor. 4th ed Eldar Codex pg 28  Destructor is worked out like a normal shooting attack.  Should the Seer Council be assaulted the assaulting unit takes 3-21 S 5 Ap 4 hits.  Damn!  Fritz's Warlocks have 9 Destructors.  That is 9-27 S 5 Ap4 hits.  That little nugget is just begging to throw the council out there and dare anything to assault it.  Much like the Necron unit that I posted about months ago. Also schooled again.

Pupper Master is just plain fun.  Suijin told me about this game where someone used Puppet Master on a Vindicar Assassin to destroy a Land Raider.  That just sounds fun.


Harlistar time.

Now behind the seer council arrow you have your Harlequins.  This is something I mentioned in a post about Harlistar 2+ cover in open sometime ago.  Specifically I was suggesting to use Guardians to screen the Harlequins.  Turns out Fritz's idea works perfectly.  Shadowseer's Veil of Tears gives the Harlequins a 2+ cover save when enemy is shooting through Seer Council at Harlequins.  Unfortunately Farseer can't caust Fortune twice.  The Harlequins won't be able to re-roll their saves but they shouldn't get too much attention until it's too late.


Now the rest of the army.

Considering having one solid front.  Within 6" of the Farseer will be War Walkers so she can cast Guide on them.  Wraithlord with in wrath sight range.  That should potentionally provide target saturation.  Still not sure abou that.


slainte mhath

p.s.  I really have to slow down and take a breath.  Thanks again, Anon 5:11pm.

3 comments:

  1. You can't overwatch with Destructor, read your codex FAQ. Maybe keep one or two Destructor for utility, and drop the rest to save points.

    The vehicle upgrades on the Falcon are a waste. Stones only affect one result on a pen, and Holo doesn't save a hull point. Drop these.

    Prisms should be taken in pairs or not at all. Swap this for a second Wraithlord.

    You have four Heavy choices.

    You desperately need more Troops.



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    1. Anon 5:11pm, great schooling. Damn that is what I get for not going over the list. Thank you.

      Great catch regarding the FAQ

      Q: Can you use a Warlock's Destructor power when resolving
      Overwatch? (p28)
      A: No.

      Anon 5:11pm. Sound advice all around. Kudos, Sir.

      /hangs head in shame

      Feeling quite humbled.

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    2. You know, Anon 5:11pm. I like you. Please keep pointing these things out.

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